Money bots talk and bullshit bots walk?
Now that AI
can beat a Turing test by bullshitting,
what’s the next test? In Prediction
Market Trading as an LLM Benchmark, Jesse Richardson suggests that
setting up an LLM to trade on a prediction market (e.g. Polymarket,
which is the platform I’ll talk about here) could be a particularly
strong benchmark with a number of desirable properties.
Scott
Alexander also suggests prediction markets as a useful challenge for
bots.
Seems like a good idea. The best part about prediction markets as a benchmark is scaling. One skilled prediction market trader can end up on the winning side of trades with a large number of low-skill traders, human or bot. LLM benchmarks that depend on evaluating generated text are much harder to scale, and it’s usually easier to bullshit than to detect bullshit. To make a market-based pass/fail test, give the bot a stake and charge it interest on its stake and rent for the computing resources it uses. A bot passes the test if it can stay solvent for the agreed-upon time in a market with human traders. Even if bots can’t pass the test, they might still have their uses, since they can help add liquidity to corporate prediction markets and incentivization markets. (More: boring bots ftw)
In practice this market test would not be a pure prediction benchmark, but would have some text generation aspects, too. A bot would get a substantial advantage by explaining its trades afterwards—talking up its positions, and telling other traders why they should pay more than the bot did. But the bot’s ability to explain its actions in a persuasive way does not have to be tested just by looking. It can be evaluated indirectly by looking at how well the bot can persuade other traders.
The big problem with building an open ecosystem for AI is the cost of
benchmarking. Even when it is possible to train a model at low cost,
evaluating that model depends on either hiring large numbers of human
reviewers, or paying for access to a larger model. In order to get to
the own your own AI
stage, the benchmarking budget problem needs
to be addressed early on. Integrating an incentivization market with
existing open-source collaboration infrastructure (Pinfactory
connects to a GitHub project pretty easily, just saying) could be a
good start. More: boring bots ftw
Update 26 Apr 2026: Prediction Arena: Benchmarking
AI Models on Real-World Prediction Markets by Jaden Zhang, Gardenia
Liu, Oliver Johansson, Hileamlak Yitayew, Kamryn Ohly, Grace Li.
Prediction Arena demonstrates that real-world evaluation with real
consequences provides insights that cannot be obtained from synthetic
benchmarks. Over the full 57-day evaluation, Cohort 1 models exhibited
final returns ranging from −16.0% to −30.8% — a spread driven not by
market luck but by systematic differences in initial prediction
accuracy, risk discipline, and (in Phase 2) the decision of whether to
continue trading at all. These differences are not visible on standard
NLP benchmarks, illustrating the measurement value of high-stakes,
real-money evaluation….Prediction Arena operationalizes the distinction
between information gathering and information synthesis in a way that
static bench- marks cannot.
Bonus links
Ever notice that the AI skeptic articles are so much better written than the AI fan articles? It seems like the only way to change that would be for the AI firms to start doing the whole pay the writers thing. Somehow the AI scene needs to, for its own good, figure out how to stop squeezing legit text out of training sets and avoid letting deceptive text in. But paying people for public information goods is hard. AI firms will have to look at options such as putting up the seed money for a dominant assurance contract on a to-be-written work on the condition that it will be licensable for training. In the meantime, here’s a recent list of AI-related links that have been making the rounds.
A look at Eric Schmidt’s White Stork, which sources say has poached employees from Apple, SpaceX, Google, and others to build AI-enabled military drones (icymi, the story that started this whole perplexity.ai news cycle)
Perplexity’s
grand theft AI [B]y providing an answer, rather than pointing
people to click through to a primary source, these so-called “answer
engines” starve the primary source of ad revenue — keeping that revenue
for themselves.
Consent,
LLM scrapers, and poisoning the well How can we pull off a
Nightshade for text?
L AI
ZY. What was happening in the world of AI was that people thought
they could ask it a question–what’s the next big fashion trend–and get
an answer. They didn’t realize the amount of work that had to be done to
allow a computer to derive an answer.
There’s
Something Deeply Wrong With Perplexity Even readers are becoming
wary of the trend, with a new report by the Reuters Institute for the
Study of Journalism finding that a majority of news consumers are
suspicious of AI-generated news content.
(I am seeing a lot more
user questions about how to block or avoid AI output then questions
about how to get it. Maybe the people trying to get it are asking in
other places?)
The
public web and consent On the LLM front, I’m not particularly
bothered by my writing being used to help train GPT, Claude, or Apple
Intelligence. While I appreciate others feel differently, I just don’t
see these tools as replacing me in any real way. On the other hand,
tools like Arc Search, Perplexity, and Google’s AI answers are trying to
replace me and present my work as their own. That’s plagiarism and
copyright infringement…
How
to stop Perplexity and save the web from bad AI Like Clearview,
Perplexity’s core innovation is ethical rather than technical. In the
recent past, it would have been considered bad form to steal and
repurpose journalism at scale. Perplexity is making a bet that the
advent of generative AI has somehow changed the moral calculus to its
benefit.
I Paid $365.63 to Replace 404 Media With AI (This is a fun one, although scary when you consider the low standards of certain web ad companies. I really hope they do a follow-up about whether Mohamed Sawah has more work than he can handle now. Or maybe in the future when he’s some kind of Internet tycoon this story will be the place to look for answers to some trivia questions about sites he worked on.)
The mainstreaming of ‘AI’ scepticism – Baldur Bjarnason (Good points about the growing gap between executive AI fandom and everyone else’s doubts. See also I Will Fucking Piledrive You If You Mention AI Again)
AI Images in Google Search Results Have Opened a Portal to Hell (I’m almost done with this list, got like two more)
Meta uses “dark patterns” to thwart AI opt-outs in EU, complaint says (hooray, it’s like Realistic Facebook Privacy Simulator but for AI training)
Flood of AI-Generated Submissions ‘Final Straw’ for Small 22-Year-Old Publisher (like I said, easier to bullshit than to classify text as bullshit or not)